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by Toebs
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion & News
Topic: CoronaVirus now confirmed on Crete
Replies: 184
Views: 20573

Re: CoronaVirus now confirmed on Crete

One irony here, if you'll permit me dark humour, is that the dead in the UK will be disproportionalty Brexiters! if this had happened a few years ago, Brexit would not have happened! B******s! Exceedingly bad taste. Go back to whence you came. Signed 'A socialist octogenarian remainer' (just for yo...
by Toebs
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion & News
Topic: CoronaVirus now confirmed on Crete
Replies: 184
Views: 20573

Re: CoronaVirus now confirmed on Crete

Morning. As an example, in Italy, 12 percent of all detected COVID-19 cases and 16 percent of all hospitalized patients were admitted to the intensive care unit. I may be wrong, but I suspect the infection rate is much higher than the detection rate. To the extent this is true, percentages are misle...
by Toebs
Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: Common Travel Area (UK, Ireland)
Replies: 2
Views: 2236

Re: Common Travel Area (UK, Ireland)

Still, it gives you a way - a slow way to be sure - to get back into the EU. You can move to Ireland, because of the CTA. So you go there, do the five years, get Irish citizenship, you're in. Other countries, you need a job I would think to be allowed to live there - maybe the job doesn't work out, ...
by Toebs
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: Common Travel Area (UK, Ireland)
Replies: 2
Views: 2236

Common Travel Area (UK, Ireland)

From the Evening Standard, today; https://news.yahoo.com/brexit-news-latest-free-movement-191758567.html?guccounter=1 Free movement between the UK and Ireland will not end in the event of a no-deal Brexit, No10 has confirmed. The CTA means citizens of the UK and Ireland (as in Southern) can move and...
by Toebs
Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: Reminder
Replies: 13
Views: 3698

Re: Reminder

We all have our opinions and the ability to express them strongly yet clearly and objectively is something which we have now lost. No. This is not an accurate characterization. The majority and I would say the large majority of people in the thread were polite and respectful, always. If they were i...
by Toebs
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: Reminder
Replies: 13
Views: 3698

Re: Reminder

I may be wrong, but in general Internet debate on non-trivial matters is typically extremely angry. The thread was in my experience unprecedentedly civil. The thread itself for me, in terms of content, was invaluable. In any matter, the insight of others is invaluable in helping correct and develop ...
by Toebs
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

All those people who have voted Tory in past elections can’t complain. This is the limited-choice problem. I have a gun. You may now either give me your wallet or your phone. It's the same with voting. You can vote Tory or Labour (or LibDem or Green, but they've never mattered) and now this means y...
by Toebs
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

Well, I called it. Based on the theory of the worst possible thing occurring - I don't mean by accident, but I mean with real application of utterly twisted thought and effort - I predicted Johnson as PM. I don't think of myself as English or British, although I am as I grew up there, so the culture...
by Toebs
Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

scooby wrote:I tell you something, you have to be a strong character to come in as Prime Minister at this time of uncertainty,


Or a fool, or over-confident, or with a big ego.

There are plenty of negative traits which will lead men into dangerous waters.
by Toebs
Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

If he holds an election before delivering on Brexit I don't think he will win back the Brexit voters. I think they will go with the Brexit party. I'm thinking they may vote Cons to keep Corbyn out. The old and rich Brexit voters I know think Corbyn is even worse than Remain. The poor and disaffecte...
by Toebs
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:34 am
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

I'm starting to think Boris will hold an early election. The pitch will be something like "you have to vote Cons to get Brexit and to stop Corbyn". He'll try to get the Brexit Party vote. If he can do it, and get enough of a majority, he can pass no-deal. The problem for Remain is that the...
by Toebs
Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

The prize is getting out of the EU. So, out of the EU, Scooby, describe how people's lives and fortunes will be improved? Oh come on Phil, I don’t have the time nor the inclination to go over 3 years of old ground and then have point scoring arguments. Seconded. We may be unhappy, but letting the l...
by Toebs
Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

Regardless of what happens with Brexit, the UK is already f*cked. If we leave or if we remain, the issue will not go away. If we get a People's Vote, the divisions will only deepen. I'm more hopeful about a referendum - *if* there are three options, hard out, soft out, remain. The majority for rema...
by Toebs
Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

A general election seems a possibility. I spoke to a rich, old friend, asking him Johnson or Hunt, and he said if he were to vote, it would be for Johnson (again, "fun" rather than "boring"). I think if *he* feels this way, then the Cons party membership will too. (He's normally ...
by Toebs
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Brexit and Living in Greece
Topic: The Will of the People
Replies: 1643
Views: 202580

Re: The Will of the People

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-48830592 "Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt has told a Conservative Party leadership hustings that as Brexit approaches, the Northern Irish backstop "has to change or has to go"." So. I may be wrong, but I think what it means is this : the...

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