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Postby Retired in Crete » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:36 am

For the past couple of months I have been plagued by spam. It all seems to come from 2 companies, one "on line pharmacy" and the other offering to "enlarge" my body parts.

Every time one arrives I block the sender and delete the e-mail. I must have blocked several hundred senders by now but they still arrive from different names. I am getting six to ten every day.

Is there anyway I can stop them arriving?

John

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Postby Jean » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:40 am

Is there anyway I can stop them arriving?


Change your email address. If you are not a business it should not be too disruptive.
If you really need to hang on to your existing address there are other ways but changing your address (and keeping it private if possible) is by far the easiest solution.
And then when it starts again change the address again.

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Postby filippos » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:56 am

Lucky you. I received 181 e-mails today of which 163 were spam [but I do have several accounts and most spam arrives at two of them].

Your service provider probably has spam filters that you can activate but you run some risk of losing legitimate mail if the filters are too 'aggressive'.

Do you download your mail direct to your e-mail client? Do you use Outlook Express/Outlook? If you do I'd advise closing down the preview pane if you haven't already. Effectively, that opens the mail and if one contains a 'nasty' that is released just by opening the mail you have a problem.

Apart from that there's not much you can do about it once the spammers have your e-mail address. You can make it easier to sort by using a program like 'Mailwasher' which is what I do. There are several similar programs and Paul can probably name a few.

In effect what they do is set up a 'proxy' server to scan your mail before you download it and at the same time indicates with colour coding known spam, probable spam, probably legit mail and people on your own friends list and blacklist. Makes it much quicker and easier to decide which mail you want to keep or dump. Advantages are that you don't rely on your service provider so you minimise the risk of losing legitimate mail and you dump the potential nasties before they actually land in your machine.

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Postby Jean » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:11 am

My emails go through a proxy (or two - it depends on which address) with (not too aggressively set) spam filters and I manually check the rest with Mailwasher. My spam has gone down from an average of 100 a day 4 or 5 years ago to no more than 10 a day. That gets deleted on the final POP server with Mailwasher.
I have a whole lot of very public addresses (for example as webmaster or admin of a number of sites) but at least if an address gets too compromised I can change it to a similarone@thesamedomain.com so that's not too bad. All these email addresses get a final redirect to a local mail box that is entirely private and never used for sending mails so hopefully it will never get compromised (and I believe that it also has a spam filter).
Only 6 spam emails made it into my inbox so far this year.

So yes, it is possible to massively reduce the amount of spam you get but is it worth it if you don't work with your emails? If I had only one or two mail addresses for private communication I'd just dump them and get new ones when they get compromised.

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Postby Ray » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:46 am

Hi John,

I had servers and webpages and the whole shebang and was getting up to well over a thousand a day. I tried all the systems everyone mentioned above but A: It was very tedious and B: it never really stops it.

Then I was invited by a good friend to join the Google GMail system - you have to receive an invitation - and since then I have had no spam at all. Excellent.

So if you would like me to invite you to have a GMail address - it is entirely free - then send me your email by PM.

By the way I get absolutely nothing out of this except the knowledge that the people we invite are not known spammers.

Thats it,

Ray

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Postby Jean » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:44 am

I also use Gmail as a backup and agree that it is pretty good at filtering junk.

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Postby Ray » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:53 am

Hi Jean,

And did you know that if you download the Google Toolbar free from Google to your Internet Explorer or Firefox browser, you get a small icon as a member of GMail which shows when you have mail waiting. You only need then to click on the icon to open up your GMail in another window.

Excellent all round.

Ray

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Postby paulh » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:06 pm

If you have broadband and Microsoft Office containing Outlook or Outlook itself (not Outlook Express) or Windows Mail (the Outlook Express replacement on a Vista machine) then the Junk email filter will automatically move around 96% of junk emails to a Junk email folder without any of the bother of writing a "rule" as per John's original post. The odd one or two that bypass it can just be dragged and dropped on the same folder unopened. Then delete the folder contents say once a day using the facility in the right click drop down menu and you don't even have to open or see the contents of the junk email folder.

The minus part is that you still download the junk but on adsl that is not really an issue.

If you are on isdn or dial up then you do not want to have tons of spam clogging your line then Mailwasher will look at your mail while it is still on the email server and give you the opportunity to delete it there and it does not get downloaded. Full details and download capability is here

http://www.mailwasher.net/

As has been said Forthnet too have their own spam filters but in the past I have found that if Forthnet get a slew of spam emails via say BT then they will stop all BT source emails including perhaps those from Auntie Mabel which of course are not spam and you want so I don't set it on. Not sure if the other Greek isp's follow the same line

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Postby Assimilate » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:08 pm

I use hotmail and have an email account thats probably over 10 years old now. I get no junk in my inbox and 1 or 2 a day in the junk mail. So nothing bad. I have noticed I get a little more if I surf porn sites, but that subsides in a day or 2 after surfing them.
I also have an email on my own domain and that gets no junk email either!

I do block cookies or allow them session only I use both IE and FF to surf. run ad-aware, spybot and windows defender alongside avg antivirus. I also have all the ad servers I know redirected in my hosts file to my local machine, as well as google analyzer. I'm not sure if all that effects email, but as I say I don't get junk mail.

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Postby Carolina » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:30 pm

I get tons of junk mail at the website email and at an old email address which I still use to sign up for anything - newsletters, registering on websites etc. Hardly get any - not even one a day - at my home email address which I never give out on forms or sign ups.

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Postby Kilkis » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:47 pm

I got a new email address with OTENET when I moved to Crete. It started to receive spam within 24 hours despite never having been used.

Probably a combination of having your own web address with an email server and a redirection service like Spamex should keep spam down. Because the real email address is something unusual, e.g. john@iamnowincrete.me.uk, and you never use it directly it is unlikely to get hit. You then use individual Spamex addresses, as recommended by Filippos, to log onto web sites etc. They redirect to your real address. If you ever get spam on one of them you simply kill it.

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Postby filippos » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:19 pm

Forgot to mention Spamex [http://spamex.com] which I use. I can create up to 500 disposable addresses [that's active addresses] and, as Warwick says you can just switch them off either temporarily or permanently if junk starts to arrive.

Currently I have about 25 active for things like airline newsletters and similar stuff - things like "thoscookoffers@spamex". You can record the site's URL so if you start to get spam you can identify who's, maybe sold or shared your address. Report them and turn off the address.

You may have seen me use things like licforum etc. in a post that someone can use. When the wanted mail is received either dump the address or deactivate it until the next time you want to use it.

If I remember correctly I pay about US €9 p.a. With up to five hundred you can "use once and discard" if you wish.

There are several similar services.

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Postby Carolina » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:57 pm

Kilkis wrote:I got a new email address with OTENET when I moved to Crete. It started to receive spam within 24 hours despite never having been used.
Warwick


Strangely enough, my said email with hardly any spam is OTENET!
Maybe I've got an OTE spam filter turned on or something - I never use the web version so haven't checked that.

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Postby Jean » Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:12 am

I got a new email address with OTENET when I moved to Crete. It started to receive spam within 24 hours despite never having been used.

My Otenet address (had it for almost 10 years) is spam free so you've had bad luck Warwick.

did you know that if you download the Google Toolbar free from Google to your Internet Explorer or Firefox browser, you get a small icon as a member of GMail which shows when you have mail waiting. You only need then to click on the icon to open up your GMail in another window.

I know Ray but as my Gmail is only a backup I have almost 10.000 unopened emails in it so there is always mail waiting. I am not so hooked on receiving emails that I'll open the same email twice ;-)

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Postby Mathitis » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:22 pm

If you do [use Outlook] I'd advise closing down the preview pane if you haven't already. Effectively, that opens the mail and if one contains a 'nasty' that is released just by opening the mail you have a problem.




Now that is something worrying! I never realised that. By same token I have never had any problems/nasties (yet!).

I thought that, as long as I didn't double click to open the email to full screen view, then I had NOT actually opened it ??????

I rather liked the preview pane option, but I have closed it down pending any further clarification that I can reopen it !!!! ??


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