TweetTweet wrote:sorry, for some reason your initial sentence didn't show up.
Setting up a briquette making factory to turn waste from the olive trees into fire bricks
Most prunings are burnt on the roadside or left on the ground ,not everybody owns goats and sheep. .The MAJORITY of sheep and goats are semi wild and loose in remote areas and are not likely to be rounded up from the top of a mountain to eat an few leaves.Besides they can only eat fresh leaves anyway and the leaves do not stay fresh very long after cutting
I've been here for 25 years and actively olive farming for the last 18. None of the fields where I live employ the land management you describe.
Clearly you don't know very much in respect of a goat diet - goats and sheep like fresh leaves, particularly from the mulberry for example, but they will become sickly if they eat too much in one sitting, - the withered leaves of olives, carobs, skinos etc) form part of their best natural healthy diet.
There arent enough sheep and goats on the whole island to eat all the biomass waste produced anyway! .
I expect there are more than enough goats and sheep to eat their way to a beautiful *gourmet* satisfied experience. Human beings are the problem
We do not prune during harvest time ,a tiny amount is under taken ,but we do the main pruning after .Some fires but not all are caused by olive tree farmers burning their waste and the fire becoming out of control during or shortly after the times of harvesting and pruning- from October to March.
Again, generally speaking, it is good use of time in the olive grove to concurrently do basic and essential husbandry tasks. I accept each person's experience and ideas about how best to utilise time and equipment will be different.
Just to say to anyone who might be interested, it is easy peasy to start your wood burner, open fire etc - only a very small handful of extremely dry *horta* is required. (Your have to be the ant rather than the grass-hopper):)
I always have some oil left from the previous year so I use that as well. Also of course for an open fire (apart from a good mixture of different wood) some fire-building dynamics are required. Air-flow etc.
Jeffstclair wrote:I always (and all my friends around here) treat the olive harvest and olive tree pruning as two separate jobs ....I think its better to get the olives in and to the factory asap ...then when it's all done and dusted ....the nets go out in the field to get a wash in the winter rain (some hope) chainsaw get a service and I go out with a calm pruning head on ....I love pruning olive trees, it's one of my favourite jobs, nothing better on a cold morning, flask of coffee ,.....going home with a pile of fire wood in the truck .... I think your plan is very interesting , but I suspect you might have to show you can make it work before you will get any help from the government ...Have you looked to the EU for any advice or support ... where is your market ?who is gonna buy briquettes ...most folk I know have more firewood than they know what to do with... and for them that don't have it for free, it's cheap enough to buy ....and pyrini is very cheap to run central heating...
Kilkis wrote:I think what the discussion illustrates is the difference between a "business idea" and a "business plan". As an ex-business manager I would say DobbyThehouseElf has a "business idea" but, as yet, he doesn't have a "business plan". Most people I know regard starting a business in Greece as the nine levels of hell as portrayed in Dante's Inferno rolled into one. Ending a business is infinitely worse. Operating a business in Greece involves dealing with the tax office, who model their activities as a cross between the extortion and protection rackets of the Mafia.
DobbyTheHouseElf wrote:...Hi been back to consulting the Mrs! .She was born here 57 years ago and grew up in Chania ...
DobbyTheHouseElf wrote:...Everything seems to be detering me ,from the comments here ,the government tax rules and even the Mrs.I really want to do it but she is not keen and says no... Whats the point in working hard at an idea if everything will be taken in taxes?
DobbyTheHouseElf wrote:thank you v.much for your kind offer Sir .I wonder how useful a castrated male goat would be to me? i suspect it might make some fresh dog meat for Bebino and Mortis?If you include several large bottles of your Rakki or homemade wine I may reconsider!
TweetTweet wrote:DobbyTheHouseElf wrote:thank you v.much for your kind offer Sir .I wonder how useful a castrated male goat would be to me? i suspect it might make some fresh dog meat for Bebino and Mortis?If you include several large bottles of your Rakki or homemade wine I may reconsider!
I'm female. A castrated male goat might be more inspirational than you might ever know.
I drink my own organic wine, occasionally I make raki but only use it for cleaning jobs. Doen't matter how *clean* the distillation process might be (and most are absolute crap), it is not a good drink.
From my perspective if you believe a beautiful boy goat (whether castrated or not) might only serve your dogs appetite(s), then I am truly sorry for you.
filippos wrote:In your opinion. Some of us quite like it but I agree there are many different ones, some of which are not very pleasant.TweetTweet wrote:.. raki ............., is not a good drink.
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