EMPRESS OF THE SEAS

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Kamisiana
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Re: EMPRESS OF THE SEAS

Postby Kamisiana » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:28 am

Warwick[/quote]

Personally, speaking as a migrant, I am in favour of migration. I think the present government's position on migration is idiotic. There are many people in detention centres who are young, extremely bright, well educated and could be making a valuable contribution to the UK economy. The government prefers to keep them in detention as a burden on the state because they are frightened what the racist press will say if they release them.

Does that apply to the Greek government as well have not seen many migrants plucked out of the Greek detention centers who are extremely bright and well educated and given a job in Greece, the Greeks should be checking their CVs before moving them on.

Kilkis
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Re: EMPRESS OF THE SEAS

Postby Kilkis » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:24 pm

In general Greece is as anti-migrant as the UK. To be fair they are getting over a hundred times as many entering the country per year as the UK with a smaller endemic population and massive economic problems caused by the financial crisis and exacerbated by COVID-19. Also most migrants do not want to stay in Greece, partly because of Greece's economic problems, whereas clearly those who make it as far as the UK do want to be there. Allowing people to become productive members of the community who want to do just that is a different proposition from forcing people to become part of the community when they don't want to be there are two very different propositions.

Today around 14 % of the UK population is foreign born/foreign national. That breaks down as around 4 % of EU origin and 10 % of non-EU origin. The vast majority of foreign nationals living illegally in the UK are people who entered the UK on a valid Visa, i.e. they arrived by a legal route, but then overstayed their Visa duration or, in some other way, broke their Visa validity.

The vast majority of people who enter the UK by an illegal route do so on trucks crossing the channel by ferry or the tunnel. In some cases the truck driver is smuggling them and in other cases they managed to smuggle themselves onto a truck unknown to the driver. The number crossing the channel in dinghies is a tiny fraction of the number entering on trucks.

Between the 2001 and 2011 censuses the UK population grew by 4 million people and about 70 % of that growth was from migration. Next year we will know how it has progressed since 2011. COVID-19 is undoubtedly going to cause an unemployment problem of unknown severity and duration but, in the absence of COVID-19, the UK desperately needs migrant workers and will continue to do so in the future.

Warwick

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Re: EMPRESS OF THE SEAS

Postby mrsbluenose » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:27 pm


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Re: EMPRESS OF THE SEAS

Postby bobscott » Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:31 pm

mrsbluenose wrote:https://www.tradewindsnews.com/cruise-and-ferry/royal-caribbean-sells-two-cruiseships-as-restart-date-drags-further-into-2021/2-1-932626?fbclid=IwAR3G_RDw5Dgi84b6lFpKUHrddefkn9fSzL7d91uEDYp8QQeNfZ5qqbZGr9E


Thanks for that. Very interesting. Bob.
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