Cost of prescription medicines

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby SatCure » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:57 pm

kastri1961 wrote:I take 6 prescription tablets per day

Just a thought; I read, recently, that when anyone takes more than, say, two prescription drugs the interactions are unpredictable. Quite often they need months of blood monitoring to ensure that no bad side effects are occurring and going unnoticed. (Many bad things can happen without obvious symptoms.)

The recommendation was to consult your specialist and have him check whether the number of drugs can be reduced to a sensible number. Apparently a lot of doctors don't do this unless specifically asked to.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby kastri1961 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:15 pm

Thank you but I need all 6 as it's heart related. All fine now after having a stent fitted but appreciate the feedback.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Carolina » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:17 am

Not relevant to kastri's question, but on the other side of the coin, I pay Nat Insurance in Greece and have a Greek- issued EHIC card for emergency treatment in the UK & europe. I once ended up staying in the UK longer than anticipated on a visit because of family illness and my supply of blood pressure tablets ran out. At this point I really needed them as I was under a lot of stress & worry and didn't know how long I was going to have to stay!

I went to a GP surgery local to where I was staying, explained my situation, showed my tablets, asked for a prescription, then realised I had left my EHIC card in Greece. I was told they could issue a prescription but I would have to pay full price for the drugs at the pharmacy without my EHIC card. The GP surgery didn't know the brand I had & sent me to the pharmacy for them to work it out, then back to GP surgery to write the prescription - then, oh we don't know what prescription we can write because we only have NHS ones and you have to pay. Come back in an hour while we find out what to do. I go back in an hour, wait around for another hour and eventually they give me a prescription. I go back to the pharmacy, hand it over and say I understand I have to pay full cost for this. They look at me as if I am mad, say they have no idea of the full cost of the drugs, I can't pay in full, and they charge me the 8 pounds (or whatever it was) NHS prescription charge.

If it sometimes feels like you are banging your head against a brick wall in Greece, maybe you or a clerk not knowing the system, you feel like you are being passed from pillar to post, remember it's not only in Greece!

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Kilkis » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:34 am

The problem in the UK is that for virtually all drugs you have to have a prescription, i.e. you can't just go and buy them over the counter, and there is a flat rate prescription charge per prescription item, currently £8.40, so the pharmacy has no need to know the price of the drugs. In Greece you can buy most drugs without a prescription and with a prescription you pay a percentage of the full price so pharmacies have to know the prices.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Maud » Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:09 pm

I 'second' your view about bureaucracy Carolina, it exists everywhere, not just in Greece.

I cannot complain about our doctor's surgery in the UK. Not only are the two GP's there efficient and helpful, but it is seldom you cannot get an appointment the same day, even if you don't ring up until lunch time. - An exception.....I know!

As far as prescriptions are concerned, I am fortunate that I don't regularly take medication, however, on two occasions in the last couple of years I have had surgery on an old knee injury. Both times I went privately. When you leave the private hospital they provide you with pain killers etc for a few days. It is always a private prescription written by the consultant. The costs are extortionate for such a prescription.......just for a few pain killers. Fortunately my GP has anticipated this both times and issued me with an NHS prescription prior to the operation....ready for when I leave hospital. Medical insurance with BUPA does not include prescription charges for anything you bring home with you.

The whole area of medical care is a mine field wherever one is based. One of our closest Greek friends died within three weeks of being diagnosed with lung cancer last December.- It had been thought he was just suffering from asthma, and like many Greek men, (or other nationalities come to that!) he had been reluctant to go to see anyone about it. It would be easy to put this down to poor medical care, but sometimes it is just the way things are. We have two good friends who are pharmacists, one who is a vet and one who is a doctor on Kriti and all are excellent in their field of work. In the UK we have two vets in the family plus two doctors......a GP (not ours!) and an oncologist. I would be happy to seek treatment from any of them in either country!

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Kilkis » Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:54 pm

Many years ago in the era of Gorbachev and perestroika I spent a short time working in Russia. When asked what it was like I gave the following description:

    1 There are rules.
    2 You MUST follow the rules.
    3 You have no idea what the rules are.

I think dealing with another country's bureaucracy is a bit like that experience. At least in your own country you stand some chance of knowing what the rules are.

A few years ago, when my late wife was diagnosed with stage 4 kidney cancer the process was started by an IKA kidney specialist. He authorised an ultrasound scan, which revealed the tumour, and he immediately approved a CT scan on the basis of a phone call from the ultrasound specialist. When he looked at the scans he referred my wife to a private kidney surgeon who in turn brought in a private oncologist. They initially decided the best course of action was to remove as much of the tumour as possible followed by chemotherapy. We agreed to have the operation done privately in Gavralakis clinic and the administrator on the desk there told me to get an authorisation from the original IKA doctor for the operation. I said I didn't really care about saving a small amount on the cost of the operation and couldn't we just go ahead. At that point she explained that if we did not get authorisation from IKA for the operation, IKA would not pay for any subsequent chemotherapy or other follow up treatment. In the end, after carrying out MRI scans, they decided that the operation was too dangerous but, because I had gone and got the authorisation for it, IKA funded several months of chemotherapy at about €4,000 per month. If it wasn't for that very efficient administrator we would have had to pay for that treatment ourselves.

Always try to find out what the rules are and never assume they are the same as you are used to.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby moved 2 crete » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:12 pm

Many thanks to Warwick for that very informative and poignant piece, graphically illustrating why it was important for all us who live here full time to have voted to stay in the EU, hoping that most who live here permanently as my partner and I do, stay in good health all their lives here, but for those like me who need expensive treatment on a regular basis we can only hope that at the end of the day some agreement can be made to sustain the present reciprocal health agreement people for like me and others across the EU countries that they retired too for health benefits etc etc in the warmer climates, we can only live in hopes the some compromise can be found before they pull the plug, I recommend all who voted out and live here full time read Warwicks post .................
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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Yin&Yang » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:59 pm

I appreciate that I am late to this this thread but wish to add for future readers that my partner belongs to ΚΑΠΗ here which is a group for pensioners and gets a substantial discount on his regular prescriptions as a result. The yearly subscription is only a couple of Euros.
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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby moved 2 crete » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:50 pm

Many thanks YIN &Yang, could you please tell me how we get the kape system and cost.............
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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Kilkis » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:17 pm

I don't know for certain but I think it is an acronym for ΚΕΝΤΡΟ ΑΝΟΙΚΤΗΣ ΠΡΟΣΤΑΣΙΑΣ ΗΛΙΚΙΩΜΕΝΩΝ that roughly translates as Elderly Open Care Centres. There are several around Chania and presumably in all other areas.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Yin&Yang » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:53 am

There was one in Souda but I think that it has moved. It is worth asking a local doctor where your nearest one is. They generally open for two mornings a week and there will be a doctor there plus a couple of people who provide hot drinks, tv etc. I understand that they also arrange day trips and longer to places of interest at a very much reduced price. A few years ago they took members on a mini cruise to Istanbul for example.
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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Kilkis » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:14 am

Vrisko lists the Souda one but Yellow Pages doesn't so it may or may not still be active. I think the address given is the Souda town hall building.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Yin&Yang » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:00 pm

Yes it used to be there but I think that the building is now occupied by the traffic warden police. I shall ask around and find out where it is now.
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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Al » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:14 pm

If you check the UK EHIC card website I believe you'll find that the card provides for more than "emergency" cover. If in an EU country or Switzerland, you can use it for emergency treatment and for treatment relating to existing conditions, provided that the need for said treatment arises during your stay in that country. If you travel specifically to obtain treatment then you become a "health tourist" and should be refused treatment, though I have known people to recieve the treatment without question.

On that basis, you should be able to attend a local doctor in Greece who should then write a script for your required drugs which you can take to the pharmacy and get them at the appropriate discount. A note regarding your condition from your GP might be helpful in case the Dr is reluctant to prescribe without a full examination.

That said many drugs are cheaper her in Greece than in the UK and many are also available over the counter. Make enquiries with the Dr before your supply runs out. Good luck.

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Re: Cost of prescription medicines

Postby Yin&Yang » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:26 pm

UPDATE : The Souda ΚΑΠΗ is still where it was at the address provided in Kilkis' link. (Sometimes I really do wonder what I'm on).
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