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PaulaJ
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Paint or varnish?

Postby PaulaJ » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:39 pm

We would like to paint the shutters of our villa a Greek blue. They are currently just dark wood that has been stained (I think). Can anyone recommend what we could use that is going to be long lasting and tough so we don't have to redo them every year? Something like a ship paint!? Can you purchase such a thing in Crete?

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Re: Paint or varnish?

Postby filippos » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:26 pm

Almost anything applied to the surface of wood is likely to need regular maintenance if exposed to the sun. The wood will expand and contract in the heat so anything on top of it is liable to crack. Even if it doesn't start flaking immediately, when the rains come and water is likely to seep through any cracks on the surface finish and when summer comes round that water will start to evaporate under the surface and the surface will bubble.

A good quality stain that soaks into the wood is a better answer but if your shutters are already stained a dark colour it will be difficult to get a decent colour finish without quite a lot of work sanding down to bare wood.

Most paint shops will be able to give you good advice about what to use: they've been dealing with the problems for years and will know what gives the best results and lasts longest and they'll be aware of the latest products on the market.

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Re: Paint or varnish?

Postby PaulaJ » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:00 pm

Thanks Filipos, much appreciated!

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Re: Paint or varnish?

Postby Kilkis » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:00 pm

My neighbour had his house painted white with blue shutters when he first moved to Crete. After he had been here a few months he commented that he had not seen another house like it anywhere in the area, which puzzled him as he thought he was following the classic Greek style. I had to point out to him that white with blue shutters was the style of the Cyclades not Crete. Crete is more earth colours, originally achieved by mixing the red earth with the render, with natural wood shutters.

There are people who will probably spray paint them for you if they can be easily demounted. That might give you a better finish and last longer. My neighbour on the other side has just had his house repainted and the green shutters are now cream like the walls. They brought spray equipment to the house and did them on site. Another option is to get new shutters made using aluminium. They are available in blue as well as white, green and brown. It would probably cost more but do away with maintenance virtually completely.

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Re: Paint or varnish?

Postby filippos » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:57 pm

Kilkis wrote:.........Crete is more earth colours, originally achieved by mixing the red earth with the render, with natural wood shutters.
Precisely what our Greek teacher did with his new house about 10 years ago, using red earth from his own garden. He experimented with various proportions of white render/earth until he got the shade he wanted. During the job he supervised the mixing done by the plasterer's labourer then finished it with water repellent that was absorbed into the surface. Completely maintenance free and still looks just as good.

They are available in blue as well as white, green and brown.
A Greek friend found some with a bronze finish that looks good, too.

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Re: Paint or varnish?

Postby Jeffstclair » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:41 pm

Yeah , There are some very high quality paints here on Crete best check with your local shops and decide if you what to use acrylic or oil based paint ,there are pros and cons in both systems . Painting wood that has already been varnished is doable ...but you need to know what the varnish or oil is and find a paint that will bond to it ,or strip it off back to bare wood , then prime ,undercoat ,and top coat ... a bit time consuming but worth it in the long term and will last for years ... the shutters themselves are easy enough to do the work is the frames and furniture and other fiddily bits ...just do one window at a time and slowly work around your house that way you keep the mess to a minimum .....jeff

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Re: Paint or varnish?

Postby sandboy2 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:16 pm

Regarding marine paint it is certainly available from any Yacht Chandler on the Island, but is comparatively expensive, can be a law unto itself to apply particularly in bright sunlight, and being very high gloss somewhat unforgiving of errors. It is also probably hard to find in the shade you require. As noted in the sound advice already given, the paints available in your local hardware store are tried, tested, and should last an acceptable time. The type you want shall say exterior oil-based for wood or metal on them, 500ml tins ( referred to as half kilo ) are easier to handle, and the shopkeeper can mix up the EXACT shade you want - or you may indeed be inspired from the many blues displayed on their colour charts, to go for something completely different. If the shade decided upon is nearer light blue maybe get some whitish exterior wood primer paint for a first coat. Painting shutters can be demanding, so from thereon in much depends upon the degree of perfection you wish to attain, and unless you want it to possibly turn it into a chore, buy a satin finish and slop it straight on - which brings to mind the purchase of plenty of white spirit for spillages, minor and otherwise, that may occur ..... as an encouraging cold beer at regular intervals is another essential requirement.


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