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Oil central heating

Postby annabanana » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:59 am

Hi
We want to get central heating for our house. I know all about cost of the fuel etc and other types of boilers available.
We want to get an external oil boiler with its own housing which are very common in UK. We have not been able to find anything in Greece and local heating engineer wants us to build a large boiler house.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby YoMo2 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:18 pm

Lots of different things you could do. Suggestions will no doubt flood in soon. Just one point, it sounds like you are not keen to build the "large boiler house" suggested. That is probably a good thing since a large structure might involve you in building permit........

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby filippos » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:34 pm

YoMo2 wrote:That is probably a good thing since a large structure might involve you in building permit.......
......... and, possibly, additional property tax. If done without a building permit there's a high risk of the property being declared "illegal" with, at some stage, paying for legalisation. We had an holiday apartment built beside our house and originally didn't plan to have CH but towards completion changed our minds (pipework was already under the floor). The builder added a small structure (2¼m² x 1.5m high) to a rear corner of the building. We completed the sale about three months before the legalisation requiring legalisation was enacted. We were lucky that the buyers (a Greek family from Athens) were not concerned about the (about to be) illegal status and, in fact, since they've owned the place both house and apartment have become even more "illegal" with alterations and extensions to both buildings.

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby YoMo2 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:19 am

filippos wrote:........ since they've owned the place both house and apartment have become even more "illegal" with alterations and extensions to both buildings.


There's a surprise. :)

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby bobscott » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:26 am

YoMo2 wrote:
filippos wrote:........ since they've owned the place both house and apartment have become even more "illegal" with alterations and extensions to both buildings.


There's a surprise. :)

Andrew


Not really Andrew. I think legality only becomes an issue when you want to sell. If you intend to keep it in the family with no sale, then I guess it is OK. Who knows when the legality rules will change again?? Bob.
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Re: Oil central heating

Postby Tim » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:55 pm

Hi Anna

How about an oil-fired combi boiler, assuming you can get a bulk delivery of oil in your somewhat remote location? I doubt you'd need planning permission for an oil tank.

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby annabanana » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:16 pm

Hi Tim
That's what we want,but there is no one could tell us if we can get an external boiler with the weather proof casing like the ones readily available in UK. So we don't need planning permission on that.
Anna

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby STEVE.W » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:44 am

Why don't you look at buying in the UK if readily available and ship it over using Nomad? A friend of mine did just that, radiators also at a saving of well over 1,000€ compared to prices here, including shipping costs.
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Re: Oil central heating

Postby YoMo2 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:57 pm

bobscott wrote:
YoMo2 wrote:
filippos wrote:........ since they've owned the place both house and apartment have become even more "illegal" with alterations and extensions to both buildings.


There's a surprise. :)

Andrew


Not really Andrew. I think legality only becomes an issue when you want to sell. If you intend to keep it in the family with no sale, then I guess it is OK. Who knows when the legality rules will change again?? Bob.


Legality, or lack of it is always a problem.

You can be clobbered anytime, not just when you sell. You cannot get probate on an illegal house until you have paid up.

And if someone reports you to planning, you may get an unwanted visit at any time.

Andrew

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby Kilkis » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:55 pm

YoMo2 wrote:...You cannot get probate on an illegal house until you have paid up...


That's what I thought so when my wife died in 2012 I went through the process of getting the house legalised. In the end it went through probate and a contract was issued assigning her 50 % of the property to me without the legalisation certificate being requested. My lawyer, who also specialises in property law, said that it wasn't needed. Obviously things may have changed since then but it was certainly after the time when the media were reporting that notaries couldn't issue a contract transferring ownership of any property for any reason without a certificate proving that it was legal.

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Re: Oil central heating

Postby YoMo2 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:56 am

Kilkis wrote:
YoMo2 wrote:...You cannot get probate on an illegal house until you have paid up...


That's what I thought so when my wife died in 2012 I went through the process of getting the house legalised. In the end it went through probate and a contract was issued assigning her 50 % of the property to me without the legalisation certificate being requested. My lawyer, who also specialises in property law, said that it wasn't needed. Obviously things may have changed since then but it was certainly after the time when the media were reporting that notaries couldn't issue a contract transferring ownership of any property for any reason without a certificate proving that it was legal.

Warwick


Well, this is Greece.... Things may have changed. Let's face it, making laws here is an iterative process.

Also, you describe a process different to the normal situation of passing a property on to offspring. You already owned 50%. Maybe there is an exception for that.

Andrew


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