Coronavirus, what happens next

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ros21m
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby ros21m » Mon May 04, 2020 4:47 pm

The latest on face masks! The Government did a U turn on their use.
The mask is mandatory for citizens in MMM, TAXI, elevators, hospitals, clinics and diagnostic centers.

The mask is mandatory for employees in MMM, TAXI, supermarkets, grocery stores that manage non-standard food, in hospitals, clinics, diagnostic centers, hairdressers and beauty salons.

In the other closed spaces, offices, hairdressing visitors, etc. A strong recommendation is given to use a mask or face mask if possible.

https://www.cretalive.gr/ellada/i-nea-k ... kes-forame

Jean
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Jean » Mon May 04, 2020 4:58 pm

What's an MMM?

Mixos
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Mixos » Mon May 04, 2020 5:25 pm

Public transport

footscapes
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby footscapes » Mon May 04, 2020 7:02 pm

And in a parallel universe, far, far away .....

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aQdhq_1588452264

:shock:

Kilkis
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Kilkis » Mon May 04, 2020 11:10 pm

I received an email today, not really related to COVID-19, that referenced a quote by John Lennon: “Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.” Seems quite appropriate?

Warwick

shine on
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby shine on » Tue May 05, 2020 7:01 am

I looked at your link Warwick, the masks are identical to another Greek site that states they are not suitable for Covid-19? If I find that site I’ll post a link.

YoMo2
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby YoMo2 » Tue May 05, 2020 7:42 am

Here is the table Andy linked, but in English.

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I think the original instruction from the government was for mandatory face mask use in all shops by customers and staff, but they later backtracked to what is in the attachment here. I'm guessing they realised people will struggle to find face masks for sale....

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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby YoMo2 » Tue May 05, 2020 7:49 am

Kilkis wrote:...... I have the opposite problem. Open goal there for you Kamisiana.


:D :D

Andrew

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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Kilkis » Tue May 05, 2020 8:48 am

shine on wrote:I looked at your link Warwick, the masks are identical to another Greek site that states they are not suitable for Covid-19? If I find that site I’ll post a link.


They are certainly not suitable for medical purposes but the advice at the moment is that, for the general public, a simple cotton mask is recommended and they are 100 % cotton. If a folded cotton tea towel, a piece of cotton T-shirt or a cut up cotton sock is suitable I can't see why a mask shaped to fit your face made with 100 % cotton is not suitable?

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shine on
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby shine on » Tue May 05, 2020 12:40 pm

I think because cotton is not entirely a true filter. A peice of folded kitchen paper towel is best placed behind the mask or inside a sock if this is to be used.
On the subject of disposable masks, I wonder if they can be re-used if they are sprayed with anti-bac after each use?

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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby SatCure » Wed May 06, 2020 8:32 am

shine on wrote:On the subject of disposable masks, I wonder if they can be re-used if they are sprayed with anti-bac after each use?


Bright sunlight each side for two minutes.

Alternatively, if mask is washable, soapy water. There's no need to use antibacterial soap unless you like to waste money.

I also read that rinsing in salty water before drying will add an extra layer of protection.
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I posted the following in another discussion, maybe less relevant, so forgive me for reposting here but everyone needs to know this:

We don't have to wait for a vaccine because the all-encompassing coronavirus cure has been known since at least 2015. Not only does it cure the infection if taken early enough - it also acts as a preventative! So why is Mainstream Media trying to hide or even refute this fact? I'll let you decide. Read on...

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die

And, before you jump in with the mainstream propaganda that this drug is "dangerous" and can cause "heart failure", read this report:
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCEP.120.008662

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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Kilkis » Wed May 06, 2020 9:20 am

Or there again there is this quote from the European Medicines Agency, my emphasis in red:

    Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, two medicines currently authorised for malaria and certain autoimmune diseases, are being investigated worldwide for their potential to treat coronavirus disease (COVID-19). However, efficacy in treating COVID-19 is yet to be shown in studies.

    It is very important that patients and healthcare professionals only use chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for their authorised uses or as part of clinical trials or national emergency use programmes for the treatment of COVID-19.

But what would they know?

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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Kilkis » Wed May 06, 2020 12:55 pm

If people want a better specification mask e-shop now have some on offer.

Warwick

SatCure
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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby SatCure » Wed May 06, 2020 4:06 pm

Follow the money. A recent HCQ paper published in the Lancet was funded by the Chinese. I'm not including the link to it.

You can believe whatever you like but I recommend perusing ALL the available evidence before making up your mind. Yes, I'm afraid that it takes time but what else have you got to do that's more important than informing yourself about something that might kill you (or family members)? 8)

I just came across this article regarding virus mutations:
https://www.rt.com/news/487849-coronavi ... us-strain/

According to reports from doctors already using it, the success rate of Hydroxychloroquine is extremely high if used, early, in conjunction with a zinc supplement and also Azithromycin if a pneumococcal infection is likely. The drug has been used for decades to treat malaria and also on a continuing basis to treat Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis so there’s no question about its safety (although it can have unpleasant side effects, which is why it needs to be prescribed and monitored by a doctor who knows what other drugs you might be taking - don’t self-medicate).

Medical Experts discuss the "Pandemic":
https://www.bitchute.com/video/u5LagTrnHltz

Ivermectin has also been identified as a possible treatment but, to date, 10 Apr 2020, has been tested only in vitro. Meanwhile, the Hydroxychloroquine + zinc + Azithromycin combination is curing people:-

French Study 1.
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/stat ... 2417577986

Second French Study proves successful
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... one-video/

Clinical Tests of Hydroxychloroquines to Fight COVID-19 in Bahrain & Belgium prove successful.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy ... e-covid-19

Malaria Drug Cures C-virus
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/18/hydr ... cure-study

Existing Drugs Cure C-virus
https://www.eutimes.net/2020/03/media-s ... ting-drugs

Chloroquine Cure has been Known but Suppressed for at least 14 Years:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... since-2005

3 International Studies Find Chloroquine with Azithromycin Shows 100% Success Rate in Treating Coronavirus in 6 Days.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... days-video

Another Hydroxychloroquine Report
http://covexit.com/professor-didier-rao ... 1-patients

LA Doctor Claims C-virus Treatment a Success
https://www.theblaze.com/news/la-doctor ... oronavirus

COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism
https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_ ... n/11938173

Hydroxychloroquine for Australians
https://www.miragenews.com/palmer-buys- ... ustralians

If you believe that the above reports are lies, follow the money again. Ask yourself what these people have to gain.

Now ask yourself what Billy Gates (high school dropout and vaccine "expert") has to gain by selling vaccines. (Clue: it begins with "bill...")

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Re: Coronavirus, what happens next

Postby Kilkis » Wed May 06, 2020 4:42 pm

SatCure wrote:...Now ask yourself what Billy Gates (high school dropout and vaccine "expert") has to gain by selling vaccines. (Clue: it begins with "bill...")


Can you direct me to the site where Bill Gates is selling vaccines? As far as I am aware all he has done is donate billions to help their development. Perhaps worth reading this Forbes article?

Warwick


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