chrissyg wrote:... But we are being very careful now ( not everyone obviously) to social distance and wear masks and the hygiene etc...
I am afraid if you do get here, Chrissyg, you will find that is very far from the truth. When I go to shops/tavernas I am now the only person wearing a mask no matter what the rules say. The café I "used to" drink in is packed with no social distancing, hence "used to". I think the majority of people here think that COVID-19 infection rates have gone down because of the hot weather not because of the rules. Boris likes to tell people to use "common sense". For decades our "senses" have "commonly" told us that viruses, which cause flu like diseases, get killed off in hot weather. COVID-19 is a virus that causes a disease with flu like symptoms. COVID-19 infections have greatly reduced therefore "common sense" dictates that the hot weather has killed it off. Brazil and Iran would suggest that this is not the case. Fortunately the rates of infection where I live are effectively zero so I am not greatly worried at the moment but I fear that an influx of new cases will cause a rise in infections, because people are not following the rules, and Greece will not be able to deal with it.
chrissyg wrote:...This attitude of yeah, maybe this week, maybe next, maybe next month sounds all a bit typical (lol).
I think that is very much a distortion. It is very simply when the infection rates are low enough that the risk of importing infections is low. That is a matter of judgement but the answer lies in the UK's own hands. Stop having the highest number of new cases per day in Europe. I am excluding Russia from that since they have no real control of the virus at all. If at a point in time Greece looks at the way the number of new cases is going down in the UK it might make a judgement along the lines of, "It seems that the UK will be down to a low enough number by 15 July so we will allow them to travel without quarantine then". If, however, the rate of fall slows so that as you get closer to the 15 July the number of new cases per day are still not low enough is that Greece's fault or the UK's? They are making the same judgement but the numbers have changed.
I don't know if people are aware of where the word quarantine originates from. In the 14 century Venice was a major trading port which, unlike other ports, was not badly affected by the plague. Frequently, however, it would get outbreaks of plague brought in by ships from other ports so it introduced a law that ships had to lay at anchor for 30 days before they could offload their cargo. If plague developed on the ship during that 30 days they would not be allowed to dock. The rule helped but it was not totally successful so they increased the period to 40 days, i.e. quaranta giorni. That worked. The clear message is that you adjust your decisions to fit events.