Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

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Kamisiana
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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Kamisiana » Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:39 am

Kilkis wrote:I think you need to apologise to Guy as well, Kamisiana. I was the first person to refer to the UK in this thread, not Guy. I posted the comment on 29 April when the infection rate in Greece had gone well past the peak, had got under 20 new cases per day and was still falling. At that time the UK was recording around 4,000 cases per day and the rate was barely falling at all. In fact after my post it rose again up to around 4,500. In addition the UK was experiencing a death rate of around 700 per day while in Greece it was around 3 per day. Since the thread was about encouraging UK tourists to come to Greece I believe my comment was appropriate at that time and I make no apology for using it.

At this point in time things have changed. The UK did eventually get its infection rate down and its death rate down. Since both countries started to release lockdown Greece has experienced a surge in infections rising to over double what it was at the first peak while the UK has only seen a slow rise. Allowing for population size the spread of the virus is now about the same in the UK and Greece and both are dominated by hotspots. I would not use the term plague island today to describe the UK as it would not be appropriate. In fact I only used the term that once so it hardly classifies as a "catch phrase". I think the person who has used it most is you, although a few others quoted it?

Warwick


I have edited my previous post to account for my mistake and added the word parroted. thank you for pointing it out.

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Guy M » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:49 pm

I’ve always been good at cribbing phrases from others if they’re good - something I learnt at school many years ago. :D

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby DJ » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:44 am

What is going on here ? It is turning into a childish squabble on what was a sensible, informative forum. Anyway, since when was 'liberal leftie" an insult. I should think a number of people on here - including me - would fit in that category and, like me, be proud of it.

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Kilkis » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:54 am

But not to people whoa are slightly right of Genghis Khan, DJ.

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby YoMo2 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:21 am

I quite like the sound of "the fascist Left". Quite a few of those around.

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby bobscott » Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:41 am

YoMo2 wrote:I quite like the sound of "the fascist Left". Quite a few of those around.

Andrew


An oxymoron! First time I came across the expression was Trump who referred to 'extreme left-wing fascists'. Someone else who doesn't know what Fascism really is in political terms! Bob
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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Guy M » Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:55 am

20 years ago when I first visited Crete there were quite a few locals around who had experienced first hand the true horror of what fascism really is.

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby bobscott » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:21 pm

Same in our village, even today. Not called The Red Village for nothing!!!! Bob.
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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby YoMo2 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:33 am

bobscott wrote:
YoMo2 wrote:I quite like the sound of "the fascist Left". Quite a few of those around.

Andrew


An oxymoron! First time I came across the expression was Trump who referred to 'extreme left-wing fascists'. Someone else who doesn't know what Fascism really is in political terms! Bob


You do realise don't you that communism and fascism share many of the same traits?

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby bobscott » Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:58 am

YoMo2 wrote:
bobscott wrote:
YoMo2 wrote:I quite like the sound of "the fascist Left". Quite a few of those around.

Andrew


An oxymoron! First time I came across the expression was Trump who referred to 'extreme left-wing fascists'. Someone else who doesn't know what Fascism really is in political terms! Bob


You do realise don't you that communism and fascism share many of the same traits?

Andrew


A bit like the ERG in the UK parliament perhaps? Ultra nationalism. Fanaticism of all kinds is just what it says - absolute utter dedication to a cause, whether that is right, left, or centre and brooking no opposition. Often resorting to physical violence towards opponents .

Thank you - yes, I do realise the commonalities.

The fact remains that the term ' Fascist ' within living memory at least relates solely to right-wing fanatics. Hence my original post. Bob.
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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Kamisiana » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:14 am

Bobscott wrote

A bit like the ERG in the UK parliament perhaps? Ultra nationalism. Fanaticism of all kinds is just what it says - absolute utter dedication to a cause, whether that is right, left, or centre and brooking no opposition. Often resorting to physical violence towards opponents .

Good God bobscott that sums up most religions around the world past and present fanaticism-absolute utter dedication to a cause, and the best one physical violence towards opponents :roll:

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Kilkis » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:21 am

Kamisiana wrote:...Good God bobscott that sums up most religions around the world past and present fanaticism-absolute utter dedication to a cause, and the best one physical violence towards opponents :roll:


I am not religious so I have no reason to defend religions but I think that statement is untrue. A better statement would be: "Good God bobscott that sums up small sections of most religions around the world...".

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby Kamisiana » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:34 am

Yes you are right Warwick, I just wondered how the ERG and UK government go involved in the "Alarming rise in cases on Crete" section.

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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby bobscott » Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:47 pm

Kamisiana wrote:Yes you are right Warwick, I just wondered how the ERG and UK government go involved in the "Alarming rise in cases on Crete" section.

Just answering a question! Bob.
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Re: Alarming rise in cases on Crete.

Postby john4d » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:57 pm

If I remember correctly the east of Crete was occupied by Fascists and the rest of Crete by the National Socialist German Workers' Party, (Nazi's). Of the two the Fascists were not as harsh as the Nazi's.
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