Carolina wrote:woaaaah Muttly, please relax.
"what does the Greek DVLA(?) say? What do they require of you to drive if you are a resident?"
More importantly what do the Greek police say when they stop you and you show a UK licence? Absolutely no problem and no checks on your details - in actual fact I've found it to be a bonus.
"What happens when you are stopped by police for a traffic offence in UK? You have your driving licence (with an invalid address) and your Greek residency card. If the police cannot verify who you are (the ID Card will be all in Greek no doubt),"
How do they know it's an invalid address? Why would you show a Greek residency card if you have a UK address on your licence? You have a passport for ID.
Now here is something else to worry about if you don't agree with the above..
Your Greek residence permit must be issued 95 days prior to submitting an application for the Greek licence. So during those 95 days will you not be driving in Crete at all, or will you be driving on an 'invalid' UK licence with an invalid address ??
paulh wrote:Where is everyone's problem?
the response from the DVLC on page 1 of this thread says
If you return to GB as a resident in the future to a different address to what is on your driving licence, then we can amend your details if required, at that time.
You will be covered on (sic) drive on your visits home to GB.
If a licence without your true address on is genuinely invalid and so invalidates your insurance etc then that puts the mockers on you driving the campervan back to England to sell it Muttly!
...and our next topic is..How many angels can dance on the point of a needle
The Adjectival LFB wrote:Muttly, I don’t think I can take much more or this UK bashing. Everyone knows the Finest are beyond reproach, the reason for our country’s integrity and a hundred other things I shouldn’t have to tell you about. Your role of anarchisticloosecannon has already been reined in, I can only implore you to respect that and desist from further treasonable mischief.
Hudson wrote:Muttly, calm down.
You have really let your imagination run away with you. This thread started with a simple question about taking a motorcyle test. It moved on to cover change of address and now we have you wittering on about terrorism, importing cars to the UK, other people driving said cars, smuggling cigarettes, sniffer dogs, stripping down 12 yr old cars, voters registers, losing your licence, getting a duplicate and someone ending up in Holloway, to name just a few of the scenarios you have chucked in.
Please give us a rest.
Carolina wrote:Sorry Muttly, it's the Greek mentality which has very definitely rubbed off on me. It seems to me that the driving license rules are ambiguous, as shown by footscapes Paul, and it is not something that I worry about - it's not black and white so I interpret it as grey and do not insist on finding the definitive black or white. Something you learn to live with in Greece. I have no problem using my UK license here, and I have a UK 'contact' address. I don't believe this is being 'dishonest'.
Very few people who are resident in Greece drive their Greek registered car back to the UK for a holiday - the scenario I am thinking of is if stopped by UK police in a hire car - I produce my UK driving licence. What else would they ask for as proof of ID ?
If you follow a certain interpretation of the rules then by the same token I would suggest that you would also be illegally driving once you leave the UK on your journey over to Crete, and the first 95 days, as the address on your driving licence is, as you say, no longer valid. A grey area indeed.
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